Nov 02 2013

Let it go, and enjoy the show

Chicago Bulls 104 Final
Recap | Box Score
107 Philadelphia 76ers
Thaddeus Young, SF 29 MIN | 5-9 FG | 0-0 FT | 7 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 1 BLK | 1 TO | 13 PTS | +9And there it is, what we’ve all been waiting for: Thad’s 3-point shot. After attempting only one 3-pointer in the first two games, he made three of four tonight … he made one 3-pointer in eight attempts all of last season.
Evan Turner, SF 39 MIN | 7-16 FG | 6-7 FT | 3 REB | 3 AST | 1 STL | 0 BLK | 2 TO | 20 PTS | +3A poor jump-shooting night, but he still scored efficiently because most of his shots came in the paint. Turner finished with 20 points on 16 attempts and shot 6-of-7 from the line.
Spencer Hawes, C 30 MIN | 8-11 FG | 0-0 FT | 11 REB | 2 AST | 1 STL | 3 BLK | 2 TO | 18 PTS | +9The new Spencer Hawes is like a better version of the old Spencer Hawes when he brought his “A” game. And old Spencer Hawes on his “A” game was a really good player. The Sixers center is shooting the lights out, he’s passing, he’s defending. He’s a matchup nightmare.
Michael Carter-Williams, PG 37 MIN | 10-22 FG | 4-5 FT | 4 REB | 10 AST | 3 STL | 0 BLK | 4 TO | 26 PTS | +6Derrick Rose is going to have nightmares about Michael Carter-Williams, whose defense led directly to three of his eight turnovers, and indirectly to another three. Also worth noting: the Sixers rookie scored 26 points and added 10 assists.
James Anderson, SG 30 MIN | 0-4 FG | 1-2 FT | 3 REB | 2 AST | 0 STL | 0 BLK | 0 TO | 1 PTS | +17Didn’t make a shot in 30 minutes, but was a team-best +17. He was doing something right. Exactly what, I’m not quite sure.
Brett Brown
Maybe this is partly the Eddie Jordan effect – we’d see a dramatic improvement from Doug Collins’ offense with any coach that had a clue, just like we saw a dramatic improvement in the defense when Jordan was replaced. But beating Chicago on the second night of a back-to-back? That’s wild. Brown has his team believing. What more can you ask of a rookie coach?

By The Numbers
500:1. The Sixers preseason odds to win the Atlantic Division.

Quote of the Game
“I’ve got to let it go and just enjoy the show.” ~Kerris Dorsey, Moneyball

Parting Shots
Bad teams do not win three games in a row, let alone three games against competition like Miami, Chicago and Washington on the road. ¬†Hell, good teams don’t win three games in a row against this competition.

At what point do we start taking this team seriously? After a win against Golden State Monday? After a week more of winning basketball? After a month?

I say, now. Why the hell not.

  • hk99


    Great article on ESPN although I find your “three wins against legitimate NBA competition does not a contender make” somewhat contradictory to your Parting Shots from above.

    In response to the ESPN article, at what point do we have to consider that maybe Spence, Thad and ET are part of what could be a good future? I understand that three games is an extremely small sample size, but I am starting to think that each of them will continue to thrive under the Brett Brown (and from being out from under Collins). If so, since they’re each only 25, do you think it’s possible that MCW + the three 25 year old veterans + a healthy Noel + the pick from the Pelicans + the team’s own pick = a future contender?

    • egoldwein

      Thanks HK. The parting shots were more that, I think we should be adjusting our expectations so that we’re no longer shocked when this team beats good competition. NBA teams beat NBA teams. That’ll happen.

      Could this core, + Noel, + draft picks make for a good future? It’s possible. But I think there are plenty of players like Turner and Hawes who could thrive in this system – players who aren’t on the final years of their contracts. The fact that they’re 25 means nothing, only that they’re due for big pay days.

      (It might make more sense to keep Thad, with three years left on contract. Then again he’s also the most valuable of those three; dealing him away would bring back the most, in terms of added pingpong balls and draft picks.)

      That said, I don’t think it’d be insane to keep this team together either. There are benefits – chemistry, winning .. and maybe they ARE part of the longterm plan. Pros/cons to both routes, and I don’t think they should trade them all tomorrow.

      I just don’t see how keeping Turner and/or Hawes through the season – then letting them walk for nothing can be justified. Especially because of the 2014 draft.

      • hk99


        Thanks for the long reply. I agree that letting Turner and/or Hawes walk for nothing after this season would be a waste. My point about them only being 25 was that, if they continue the play like they have in the absurdly small sample size of 3 games under Brown and they really are core pieces of a potential contender, they’ll all be 27 or 28 (not in their decline phase) when the team is ready to contend. More importantly, the next ~25 games will be telling as to whether Turner can be an efficient 18 point scorer who also grabs 7 boards a game, whether Spence is really a legit 3 point shooting stretch 5 and whether Thad what we all think he can be in this system. If so, and if the team wins more of those games than they’re supposed to win, Hinkie will have some tough decisions to make.

        I guess the ideal scenario for the long-term is that Turner and Hawes continue to produce at an extremely high rate, but that the team’s record suffers enabling Hinkie to trade them for maximum value without facing any potential backlash for short circuiting a potential playoff appearance.

      • robbybonfire23

        Turner is an unmitigated bust.

  • Lennix

    if spencer is playing like vlade divac, i dont want him to go. i think theres a reasonable extension for him. only if he wanted outlandish numbers on his contract id say let him go.
    keep thad until any real legit offer comes and this team is number one in the east.
    Turner is killing me right now but i blame doug collins. looking at your shot charts about the long twos, its all i think about now when i watch the games, we take threes or drive, long 2s are rare. Turner is thriving under brown and its just fun to watch. his value? i dont know if playoff teams would want him like the thunder, they would want a thaddeus more then a ET.do we dare say extend him? i think he’s a more valuable peice then this site is giving him credit for.i was down on him too but it seems like this is going to be going on for quite awhile and im actually excited to see him “get hot”.
    Michael Carter-Williams is actually getting attention from non basketball fans in philly and thats enough for me. He has ice in his veins. i hated the shaun livingston comparisons cus it made me believe that he is fragile. MCW is a stud and i did not see it coming. I really think its the works of brett brown and im starting to believe the reason tony parker is seemingly amazing, it has to do with this coach. Which is why i feel MCW is legit a 6’6″ tony parker, potentially. MCW without all the players we currently have around him, i dont see us flourishing like we have, obviously but he really is seeming complacent and at the same time very mature.
    If brown can do what he can with what we are seeing now? Then i can’t wait to see nerlens suit up. On top of that, ANYONE we draft. we dont really need a wiggins as much as we need a Randle or Parker. IF we somehow, someway get the number one you take wiggins but trading back? i dont think its a terrible idea if we can get an RG3 type deal where we own picks seemingly forever and still get a randle, parker or even aaron gordon. our flaws are there with the offensive rebounds being given up. we need to remove tank out of our vocabulary and just try and see a 20 plus win team. lets not forget our cap space and we can sign anyone and it seems like we can get steals if we can make the players we have look legit. plus even 20 win teams can get a number one. so yes, let it go and enjoy the show.

  • eric5000

    Let’s see what happens when they lose a couple of games in a row. Do they hang their heads and the season spins out of control or do they fight through it and get better? I think they fight through it and get better. One, they reflect coach Brown who mirrors the city in that they scrap and don’t make any excuses. Two, getting rid of coach Collins seems like a jail break for the kids. They are playing to their strengths and getting after it defensively. And finally three coach Brown will play the kids! I can’t wait to see a healthy Arnett Moultre. The club lost Nic Vucevic because Collins refused to play him, nice coach real nice. That won’t happen will coach Brown, he’ll play everyone and develop the kids. My only question is will Sam Hinkie blow this team up to? Oh, yeah give Evan his extension already!